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Name DYS 19 DYS 388 DYS 390 DYS 391 DYS 392 DYS 393 DYS 389i
See letter DYS 389ii-i
See letter DYS 425 DYS 426 Common Paternal Ancestor

Wanborough

Richard James Brind 14?
See note 12 23 11 13 13 13 29 - 12 ????

South Marston
David Brind 14 12 23 11 13 13 10 16 12 12 1722

South Marston
Bill Brind 14 12 23 11 13 13 10 16 12 12 1722

Dennis Brind 14 12 23 11 13 13 13 29 - 12 ????

Chris Braund 14 12 23 11 13 13 13 29 0 12 ????

Douglas John Braund 14 12 23 11 13 13 13 29 - 12 ????

John Charles Braund 14 12 24 11 13 13 13 29 - 12 ????

Aldbourne
Jonathan Brind 14 12 24 11 14 13 10 16 12 12 1706

See DNA results certificate for Jonathan Brind

Aldbourne
David H Brind 14 12 24 11 14 13 10 16 12 12 1706

This indicates that there is a possibility (around 25%) that the Brinds share a common paternal ancestor about 30-80 generations ago. At perhaps four generations a century that is anything from 750 years to 2,000 years ago. The Braunds have many similarities to the Brinds but appear to be more distantly related, if at all.
According to Oxford Ancestors we come from the Oisin Clan. Around 73% of the males in England and Wales are of the same type.

The Braund Society

The surname Braund is firmly rooted in the West Country; North Devon in particular. It is a commonly expressed myth that the Braunds, noted for their dark hair, broad heads and brown eyes, owed their existence to local women who married survivors of a Spanish Armada ship, wrecked on the North Devon coast over four hundred years ago. Documentary evidence shows that Braunds lived in Devon villages long before the sixteenth century. We believe that all Braunds share a common ancestry but the records required to prove this have not survived. Our members therefore represent several branches of the Braund family.

The surname has close associations with the village of Bucks Mills where, at one time, almost every resident was related to the Braunds. On May 25th, 26th and 28th 2007, members of The Braund Society are celebrating their 25th Anniversary by repopulating their ancestral village of Bucks Mills, North Devon, with some of its nineteenth century inhabitants.

The living history event will illustrate the history of Bucks Mills and the people who lived there and visitors will experience life in a Victorian fishing village. There will also be displays, a village trail and children's activities. The event is being staged between 10.30 and 4.30 and is free of charge. It provides a good opportunity to find out about rural life in the west country in the C19th and should be enjoyable for all age groups.

The Braund Society can be contacted at 140 Stucley Road, Bideford, Devon EX39 3EL U.K. braundsociety@fewiow.freeserve.co.uk

Our DNA lab is Family Tree DNA www.familytreedna.com

My earliest proven ancestor is William Braund of West Putford, Devon who was probably born c. 1640.

Chris Braund

Kit Num	Name	Haplo	393	390	19	391	385a	385b	426	388	439	389-1	392	389-2	458	459a	459b	455	454	447	437	448	449	464a	464b	464c	464d
107366	Braund 1	R1b1b2	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
51481	Braund 2	R1b1b2	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
N44954	Braund 3	R1b1b2a1a	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
112277	Braund 4	R1b1b2	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
75817	Braund 5	R1b1b2	13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	13	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
94073	Braund 6	R1b1b2	13	23	14	11	11	15	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	24	15	19	30	15	15	17	17
107365	Braund 7	R1b1b2	13	24	14	11	11	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	16	9	10	11	11	25	14	19	28	15	15	16	16
93717	Braund 8	R1b1b2	13	24	14	11	12	14	12	12	12	13	13	29	17	9	10	11	11	25	15	19	29	15	15	17	17
	Dennis Brind		13	23	14	11	11	14	12	12	11	13	13	29						24	15	19
	Richard Brind		13	23	See note	11	11	14	12	12	11	13	13	29	16	-	-	11	11	24	-	19	28	15	16	17	17

Richard Brind's lab gave the results 19a=14, 19b= -. For his full results see this link.

		460	GATA H4	YCA II a	YCA II b	456	607	576	570	CDY a	CDY b	442	438
107366	Braund 1	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	16	38	39	12	12
51481	Braund 2	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	16	38	39	12	12
N44954	Braund 3	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	16	38	40	12	12
112277	Braund 4	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	18	39	39	12	12
75817	Braund 5	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	17	39	39	12	12
94073	Braund 6	10	11	19	23	16	14	16	17	38	39	12	12
107365	Braund 7	11	11	19	21	15	15	16	18	36	40	12	12
93717	Braund 8	11	11	19	23	16	15	19	17	39	40	12	12
	Dennis Brind	12	11	19	23								12
	Wanborough Brind	10	-	19	23								12

		531	578	395S1a	395S1b	590	537	641	472	406S1	511	425	413a	413b	557	594	436	490	534	450	444	481	520	446	617	568	487	572	640	492	565
107366	Braund 1
51481	Braund 2	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	11	0	22	23	14	10	12	12	16	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	11	11	13	13
N44954	Braund 3	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	11	0	23	24	15	10	12	13	16	8	12	22	20	13	12	11	13	10	11	13	13
112277	Braund 4	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	11	0	23	23	15	10	12	12	16	8	12	22	20	13	11	10	13	11	11	13	13
75817	Braund 5	11	9	15	16	8	10	10	8	10	11	0	23	23	15	10	12	12	15	8	12	22	20	13	11	10	13	11	11	13	13
94073	Braund 6
107365	Braund 7
93717	Braund 8
	Dennis Brind

**A value "0" for any marker indicates that the lab reported a null value or no result for this marker. All cases of this nature are retested multiple times by the lab to confirm their accuracy. Mutations causing null values are infrequent, but are passed on to offspring just like other mutations, so related male lineages such as a father and son would likely share any null values.

Norse by north west

Nov 24 2007
by Martin Rigby,
Liverpool Echo

DNA research is now one of the fastest-growing branches of genealogy.

The forensic techniques used in plotting DNA markers on the Y chromosome (in males) now enable any individual to plot their distant origins.

The Y chromosome markers alter only very occasionally in hundreds of years, making it fairly straightforward to track the general area of origin of your earliest ancestors.

It is a fascinating subject and one which has been brought close to home in an exciting survey into the north west's Viking past.

Using a database of people with surnames dating back to before the 17th century in Wirral and West Lancashire, Professor Stephen Harding from Nottingham University and Mark Jobling of Leicester University are due to announce the results of 10 year's research into the north west's Viking ancestry on Tuesday.

The event is being held at the David Lloyd Leisure centre in Knowsley and should be a fascinating evening.

Professor Harding said: "In the north west Scandinavian place names are concentrated in Wirral and West Lancashire. Here are the only definite examples of the place name Thingwall (assembly field) in England, indicating settlements of sufficient density and autonomy to warrant their own parliaments."

Among the place names considered to be Viking in origin are Kirkby, Crosby, Meols, Cuerdale and Skelmersdale.

In order to compare the DNA from volunteers in the north west with known Viking samples, the research team chose a particular DNA marker that is prevalent in Scandinavia, Shetland, Orkney and the Isle of Man, but relatively rare in English and Welsh samples.

Just how strong the Viking influence is in the north west will be revealed on Tuesday in conjunction with the publication of the results in the scientific journal Molecular Biology and Evolution.

Along with DNA technology the research team has used archaeological evidence to build up a picture of the region's Viking roots.

Recently the discovery of a possible Viking boat under a pub car park in Meols has excited researchers.

The boat was apparently discovered in 1938 buried beneath the Railway Inn but deliberately covered up by builders to avoid delays in construction work. Written notes and a sketch of the discovery came to light in the 1990s following a planning application to build a patio. Subsequent preliminary investigations using ground-penetrating radar have revealed the existence of a boat-shaped anomaly.

Further assessments of the information will now take place before deciding whether to proceed with a preliminary excavation.

People wishing to attend the event in Knowsley on Tuesday should contact patrickwaite@hotmail.co.uk or steve.harding@nottingham.ac.uk or the West Lancashire Heritage Association on 01695 573350.

Tickets are £6 but thanks to a generous donation from the Royal Norwegian Embassy there is no charge for senior citizens or young persons under 21.

In a future column I will be revealing how to go about conducting your own DNA research and how to access the growing databases of results from people who have the same DNA characteristics as your own.

Proof of Liverpool's
Viking past

James Randerson, science correspondent
Monday December 3, 2007
The Guardian

The region around Liverpool was once a major Viking settlement, according to a genetic study of men living in the area.

The research tapped into this Viking ancestry by focusing on people whose surnames were recorded in the area before its population underwent a huge expansion during the industrial revolution. Among men with these "original" surnames, 50% have Norse ancestry.

The find backs up historical evidence from place names and archaeological finds of Viking treasure which suggests significant numbers of Norwegian Vikings settled in the north-west in the 10th century. "[The genetics] is very exciting because it ties in with the other evidence from the area," said Professor Stephen Harding at the University of Nottingham, who carried out the work with a team at the University of Leicester led by Professor Mark Jobling.

They used historical documents, including a tax register from the time of Henry VIII, to identify surnames common in the region. They then recruited 77 male volunteers with "original" surnames, and looked for a genetic signature of Viking ancestry on the Y chromosome. They report in Molecular Biology and Evolution that a Y chromosome type, R1a, common in Norway, is also very common among men with original surnames.

NOTE In the Brinddoc/pix folder there is a PDF called VIKINGS.PDF giving details of this research.

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